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Lossless Bootleg Bonanza: Van Morrison – Glastonbury, England (06/21/87) – Westwood One Superstars

Van Morrison
Westwood One Superstars In concert #97-25
For Broadcast the week of June 16,1997
recorded live by the BCC at the Glastonbury Festival, June 21, 1987

Download FLAC: Part I, Part II
Download MP3@320: File Factory

01. WW1 97-25 Intro
02. Northern Muse (Solid Ground)
03. Vanlose Stairway
04. It’s All In The Game
05. Foreign Window
06. Dweller On The Threshold
07. Cleaning Windows
08. A Sense Of Wonder
09. And The Healing Has Begun
10. Celtic Ray
11. In The Garden
12. Summertime In England
13. Full Force Gale
14. Bright Side Of The Road
15. Rave On John Donne/Did Ye Get Healed
16. WW1 97-25 promo

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April 5, 2013 - Posted by | Bootleg Bonanza, FLAC, mp3 downloads, Music, Van Morrison

28 Comments »

  1. Nice one 🙂 now in lossless quality.
    Many thanks!

    Comment by Tony | April 5, 2013 | Reply

  2. PS –
    I was looking to see how this differed from the Doberman release.
    http://www.oocities.org/tracybjazz/hayward/van-the-man.info/discography/raveon.html

    Comment by Tony | April 5, 2013 | Reply

  3. OK people we all owe Mat a big thanx for this gem. there are 2 circulating sources for this epic show. The first is an on-stage (IMO) EX AUD rec previously posted on Qualitybootz (R.I.P.)

    Comment by DylanDave | April 6, 2013 | Reply

  4. OK DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE!! … TO CONTINUE

    This source was recently re-transferred by JTT and re-posted by EDGE at T.U.B.E. It is really good but this one is the real deal!! To my knowledge this one has never been blog circulated, despite my constant requests, pleadings ect all ove the blogsphere over the last 5 or 6 years!!

    I don’t know which source the Doberman release uses. His releases are always recommended for any given source. Anyway make sure you grab this. This is the proper PRE-FM BBC mastered tapes.

    To repeat I believe this is a blog exclusive in lossless and as essential as any official Van release!!

    Many thanks Mat for more Van 87 magic and for this gem in particular.

    Comment by DylanDave | April 6, 2013 | Reply

  5. Ohhhhhhhhhhh noo!

    I can’t d’load again because all free slots are in use.
    I’m not complaining but I think I can guess what’s
    happening here…. probably there’s only so many free
    slots for any PARTICULAR file, so only so many
    can d/l it at any one time.

    Come on folks, butt out – only kidding 🙂

    Comment by Tony | April 6, 2013 | Reply

  6. Ah the internet on a saturday afternoon – FF restricting slots, Hotfile severely restricting d/l speeds, Turbobit sending you in even more circles than usual. And then there’s steaming. i blame social networking and on demand TV!!

    Anyway on the plus side and unless I’m mistaken FF appear to have relaxed their 500MB limit for free users

    Comment by DylanDave | April 6, 2013 | Reply

  7. This is why I love my site. People give me all sorts of details on my shows that I would have never known otherwise. Sorry about the FF restrictions. I blame DylanDave for pumping it up so much 😉

    Comment by Mat Brewster | April 6, 2013 | Reply

  8. Ha Ha 🙂

    Comment by DylanDave | April 6, 2013 | Reply

  9. DylanDave…..excellent comparitive notes about the different sources for this show. I found a download I acquired with an ‘upgraded’ version by JTT from April 2007. It is a Flac two disc set. Is that the “Doberman” source that you are referencing? The quality is absolutely SB quality and the note in the download mentioned an uncertainty if it is AUD or SB. I pulled my copy of RAVE ON off the shelf and found a different ‘source’ for my copy. My silver CD shows the disc to be for Radio Play Only sponsored by Budweiser Entertainment. Love that! The tracks do not include the WW1 intro/promos. Probably just an edit.
    Anyway…this is longer than intended but hope that DylanDave can help me understand the versions of this show that I have.
    BTW…I’m downloading this one also…Lfe? Who needs a life when there is more Van to acquire.
    Peace,
    Ken

    Comment by 25thBeatle | April 7, 2013 | Reply

  10. Ken,
    Unfortunately I am unable to access all my drives just now so cannot verify absolutely but pretty sure the following are all correct
    The other source is sometimes confused as a SBD, after listening I believe it is a close miked aud recording from the stage/ibstrument amps, AN INSIDER JOB PROBABLY!. It is really excellent but the sound is quite different to this one
    The 2007 transfer has been replaced with a new one by JTT – I think it is currently available at T.U.B.E. or G101 or probably both
    In the new transfer notes JTT also labels it an EX AUD
    i don’t actually have the Doberman release, I can confirm that another edited version of this pre-fm source does exist as i acquired it as 320kb mp3 a while back. I can’t remember the title but quality is probably equal to this one, artwork is different however.
    Hope this helps a little

    ps you are right, you definitely cannot have too much Van, particularly with the 87 band lineup and setlist

    Comment by DylanDave | April 7, 2013 | Reply

  11. OK Ken, found this, there are 2 commercial boot versions of ‘Rave On’. One omitts ‘One Irish Rover’ as here. Both omitt the 2 instrumentals at beginning of show.

    The JTT transfers are complete

    http://avaxhome.ws/music/vm_a1b.html

    If you read the reviews below you will see that confusion is king here. At least one reviewer is referring to the alt release.

    Does your copy include the intro and/or Irish Rover – seems to be key to resolving it. Incidentally the intro referred to in notes is not the WW1 intro but a stage intro I think

    Comment by DylanDave | April 7, 2013 | Reply

  12. Nice investigative work DylanDave. Apparently the cd version I have is the same as Mat has posted. Mine does not include One Irish Rover, nor Help Me. The 1st track on my CD leads right into Northern Muse.
    Thanks for digging into the ole HD and pulling out the references. This is good info to know.

    BTW….I really love this CD and show. I’ve probably listened to this show more than most. The performance is exemplary and that is matched by the quality of the recording. A must have for any Van fan.
    I found a note on my CD that I paid $30 for this single disc back in 98. Note to anyone who has to wait to download a link from FF: IT’S FREE AND IT’S ONLY TIME….enjoy what Mat is offering and be sure to tell him thank you.

    Thanks to Mat (lol!) and DylanDave for the excellent info.
    Peace,
    Ken

    Comment by 25thBeatle | April 7, 2013 | Reply

  13. ur welcome, just remembered I had a tape back in the day from the guy who now produces the Doberman releases. It was based on at least one of the FM broadcasts, so it wouldn’t surprise me if that wasn’t the source for the boot.
    Some kind of FM composite of the euro/US broadcasts would fill a few gaps be a useful addition to the mix.
    Anybody?…

    Comment by DylanDave | April 7, 2013 | Reply

  14. First, thanks Mat for this great post. Second, thanks DylanDave for your lively commentary and everyone else’s – fun. I too have 2 versions of this epic show – one in low bitrate (so thanks for this in FLAC Mat) and another in FLAC that was labeled FM but wasn’t nearly as good.

    So, I’m hoping this is FLAC of the better version, which may just be a really hot audience recording.

    Either way, sure love this classic Van.

    Comment by Grant | April 7, 2013 | Reply

  15. OK, all coming a bit clearer through the ether. I believe this is not either release of ‘Rave On’ at all but probably a later ‘private’ transfer of the Westwood transcription discs. I think both releases of ‘Rave On’ have the ‘blurb’ edited out.
    The artwork has probably been added as it obviously matches the track listing (this kind of thing happens all the time, just to confuse us all!!)
    Which is best? not in a position to say, the commercial boots were done 15 yearts ago BUT were presumably done using professional kit. Ken may be the man who can tell us. Just wish Westwood hadn’t left out ‘Irish Rover’ or the KILLER version of ‘Help Me’ Will have to track down the best FM release sometime to get these two (I can live without the instrumentals).
    For now we have JTTs excellent work to complete the picture.
    This is my last word on the subject – Off to give it a good listen with a glass of something Irish and triple distilled.

    Take care all

    Comment by DylanDave | April 7, 2013 | Reply

  16. To further muddy the water, my version is not the same as this post. Mat has posted the transcription version of the Westwood One show. The JTT version is definitely an Ex Aud while the Westwood is a SB. My ‘Budweiser Entertainment” disc contains no radio DJ banter. Which is nice because the version of Summertime in England at this show is amazing. This download has the announcer talking over the beginning. Which is no big thing considering the song is almost 10 minutes!!
    I have listened to all three versions today…which has been quite a treat. My feeling is that Mat has provided an excellent quality copy of the FM broadcast that is superior to the JTT upgraded version on Guitars101.
    Whew…this has been an lot of fun today. Thanks DylanDave!

    Peace,
    Ken

    Comment by 25thBeatle | April 7, 2013 | Reply

  17. What may or may not be the Doberman release was posted here:-

    http://www.themidnightcafe.org/?p=3549

    I say may or may not be because last time I listened to this I’m sure I heard “Help Me” in there. [In fact I’m wondering if Irish Rover is included as well since that seems to ring distant bells in my mind — WARNING my memory is very very bad!].

    Also, the sound of the download is consistently good but it does sound like some of the tracks have been brought together from different sources.
    This is very noticeable.

    As I mentioned elsewhere although the sound is only 256kbps it is nevertheless very serviceable even for replay on a good stereo.
    I’ve heard SBD flacs of similar vintage that have less presence and high
    and lo freqs.

    ………….arghh – it was driving me nuts so I had to check.
    You do get both Help Me and One Irish Rover. In good sound.

    No instrumentals though. Which is a shame because this band
    is GOOD and it would help round out the whole experience.
    I’ll have to track that JTT aud down now!

    Comment by Tony | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  18. That’s the Doberman (check the logo on the artwork) it’s Doberman #107 – check here
    http://www.spl-messages.net/displayForumTopic/content/306834674284098257

    Tony the FM you’ve been listening to is clearly a composite of the us and europe broadcasts, neither of which were complete and neither of which included the opening instrumentals(I think)
    But anyway it’s not the Doberman mp3 Mat posted which appears to be a different version of Rave On with the same listing we have here.

    Conclusion – we need ’em all!
    Oh I know I said I was finished but this needs to be resolved

    Main point this is definitely not FM but PRE-FM – a partially edited (adverts only removed) version of the WW1 CDs. The CDs always came with all the INTROS, blurb and adverts included so you got basically the same listening experience in Chicago as you did in Kentucky. People take a variety of approaches when posting these WW1 discs, I’ve received them with all adverts present or in separate sub folders or whatever

    Comment by DylanDave | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  19. not sure if it was mentioned yet, but filefactory is working with safari again!

    Comment by Steve | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  20. I think I may have inadvertently caused some confusion here. You should not pay any attention to the image at the top of this post. In fact you should never pay any attention to the images at the top of posts. Truth be told I don’t really care about artwork on these things. I haven’t burned a CD in ages and even when I did I rarely printed out artwork, so I just don’t pay much attention to them.

    If artwork is included in my copy I always include it in the download and usually will use it at the top of a post. If artwork isn’t included or if it doesn’t look right to post I just use Google Images.

    I do try to find artwork that matches the show, but I don’t spend a lot of time on it. I’ll usually search for the artist plus city plus year. If that doesn’t pull anything up I’ll just do artist and year in hopes of getting an image of the artist from the time period of the show.

    In this case the artwork included was -what do you call them- time sheets for the radio stations or whatever. So I searched for Van Morrison Westwood One and got nothing so I did Van Morrison Glastonbury 1987 and got the image above. I now realize that image is from a different version of this show but at the time didn’t think anything of it. Obviously I should have.

    Sorry if it caused confusion. I’ve really been enjoying the conversation though.

    Comment by Mat Brewster | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  21. Not a problem – I’m now sure this is basically a ‘private’ pre-boot version of ‘Rave On’ anyway – so artwork is kindof appropriate in this case.

    Cheers Mat, keep ’em coming

    ps pretty sure that FF size limit has been permanently relaxed, presumably back to the old 750mb – yet to find one bigger than that to try

    Comment by DylanDave | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  22. I’ve got some big Grateful Dead shows that clock in at over a gig, but it seems to me that once you get over about 500 mbs it causes problems for free downloaders in that things tend to time out.

    Comment by Mat Brewster | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  23. No problems for me either way – It’s all good

    It’s more applicable for the double CD posts which tend to clock in around the 550-650mb mark anyway

    Interesting that they are not announcing it though, i mean they always promised they’d remove the 500 limit when capacity allowed. I only discovered by luck and/or a bit of trial and error

    Comment by DylanDave | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  24. Just to clarify – what I was listening to is indeed the
    “Doberman” posted here — but that’s why I said it
    “may or may not be the Doberman”…. because
    contrary to the posted track listing the actual download
    offered does include Help Me and Irish Rover 🙂

    Comment by Tony | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  25. Yeah, can’t seem to get a title for any of the actual FM boots. Probably got a couple on my old mp3 drive. used to stroll through the english countryside with one of them on my mp3 player ringing in my ears. That was definitely a commercial boot, sound was very good and it had some suitably dramatic and appropriately moody artwork. That’s all I can remember.
    I’ll bet the Doberman release of this one (art posted in error) is damn good too. All his stuff is uniformly excellent and highly recommended. Nice guy too, got me a EX ticket for a closing night Dylan gig once about 10 mins before Bob came on stage when Bob was tearing them up at the Hammersmith Odeon in ’90.
    I always remember as of all the many Bob gigs I’ve been to it was the most memorable

    Comment by DylanDave | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  26. I should investigate his Van catalogue really to see whether he ever ‘pressed up’ the tape of Van’s mini set guesting with the Danish Radio Band in ’90 from my FM master I gave him back then. I’ve never seen it on any bootleg I’ve come across. Mayvbe its due to the BBC broadcasting it on their classical station on a saturday afternoon with no advance warning. If I don’t see it somewhere sometime I’ll have to think about getting my own humble transfer of the master out there for the common good.

    Comment by DylanDave | April 8, 2013 | Reply

  27. I was off on vacation last week so just getting to this one now. First off, downloading it worked fine. I’ve had this one for awhile but at 192 bit (including Help Me and One Irish Rover) so thanks for the upgrade. This was has been reworked many times through the years (check out belfastcowboy.org for various versions and artwork.

    This one is in my Top 3 Van boots. The sound is excellent and the clarity is amazing, listen to Neil Drinkwater piano playing on And The Healing Has Begun. Summertime and Rave On…..wow. In the Garden, double wow.

    Can’t believe the guy yelling, “get on with it” after the first song. Doesn’t he know who he’s talking to?

    I agree with the other poster that I’m going to keep both versions.

    Comment by Bruce | April 8, 2013 | Reply


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